The Energy Transition Delusion — Mark Mills


Biden’s Green Energy mandates have won over millions of Americans … but not Mark Mills.

Mark’s a physicist who was named “Energy Writer of the Year” by the American Energy Society.

He recently authored The Cloud Revolution: How the Convergence of New Technologies Will Unleash the Next Economic Boom and A Roaring 2020s.

And he runs a podcast called The Last Optimist, which features discussions with leading thinkers and innovators. I sat down with Mark to talk about the real-world science behind transitioning an entire national economy to new forms of fuel — and why even President Biden doesn’t seem to believe his mandates are realistic.

Topics Discussed:

  • An Introduction to Mark Mills (00:00:31)
  • Biden’s State of the Union Slip-Up (00:01:42)
  • Energy Mandates aren’t Based in Science (00:10:42)
  • The Myth of Zero-Emission Electric Vehicles (00:17:40)
  • Massive Energy Needs for EV Mining (00:23:50)
  • China’s Toll on the Road to Renewable Resources (00:34:25)
  • Cobalt Red and the Real-World Cost of EVs (00:40:15)
  • The Rising Cost of EV Minerals (00:47:09)
  • The Real Net Savings of Switching to EVs (00:53:27)
  • Simple Math Points to Rising Oil Prices (1:00:00)

Guest Bio: Mark Mills is a physicist, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and a faculty fellow at Northwestern University’s McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science. He was named “Energy Writer of the Year” by the American Energy Society. He has written several award-winning books, including his latest The Cloud Revolution: How the Convergence of New Technologies Will Unleash the Next Economic Boom and A Roaring 2020s. The Biden administration plans to eliminate fossil fuels as a form of energy generation in the U.S. by 2035. Not so, says Mark.


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