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An urgent warning of the unprecedented risks that AI and other fast-developing technologies pose to global order, and how we might contain them while we have the chance—from a co-founder of the pioneering artificial intelligence company DeepMind.

• “A fascinating, well-written, and important book.” - Yuval Noah Harari
• “Essential reading.” - Daniel Kahneman
• “An excellent guide for navigating unprecedented times.” - Bill Gates

Finalist for the Financial Times and Schroders Business Book of the Year Award. One of Kirkus Reviews’ Most Anticipated Books of the Fall.

We are approaching a critical threshold in the history of our species. Everything is about to change. 
 
Soon you will live surrounded by AIs. They will organize your life, operate your business, and run core government services. You will live in a world of DNA printers and quantum computers, engineered pathogens and autonomous weapons, robot assistants, and abundant energy. 
 
None of us are prepared.
 
As co-founder of the pioneering AI company DeepMind, part of Google, Mustafa Suleyman has been at the center of this revolution. The coming decade, he argues, will be defined by this wave of powerful, fast-proliferating new technologies. 
 
In The Coming Wave, Suleyman shows how these forces will create immense prosperity but also threaten the nation-state, the foundation of global order. As our fragile governments sleepwalk into disaster, we face an existential dilemma: unprecedented harm on one side, and the threat of overbearing surveillance on the other. 
 
Can we forge a narrow path between catastrophe and dystopia?
 
This groundbreaking book from the ultimate AI insider establishes “the containment problem”—the task of maintaining control over powerful technologies—as the essential challenge of our age.

• 00:00 Intro
• 02:11 How do you feel emotionally about what’s going on with AI?
• 09:17 What’s surprised you most about the last decade?
• 12:51 I’m scared of this coming wave.
• 16:04 Is containment possible?
• 23:53 What will these AI biological beings look like?
• 27:08 Would we be able to regulate AI?
• 33:10 In 30 years’ time, do you think we would have contained AI?
• 35:43 Why would such a being want to interact with us?
• 46:35 Quantum computers & their potential
• 57:04 Cybersecurity
• 01:03:38 Why did you build a company in this space knowing the problems?
• 01:05:55 Will governments help us regulate it?
• 01:15:29 What do we need to do to contain it?
• 01:30:10 Do you feel sad about all of this?
• 01:34:04 Well slowly move more toward AI interactions over human ones.
• 01:36:01 What should young people be dedicating their lives to?
• 01:37:53 What happens if we fail in containment, and what happens if we succeed?
• 01:42:31 The last guest’s question